What Are the Art Paper Sizes for the Canon Pixma 100
Flick • Veteran Member • Posts: v,818
Canon Pixma Pro 100 fine fine art newspaper conundrum
Howdy,
First of all, pitiful if this postal service comes up twice - I'd forgotten my details and rejoined, but and so managed to login under my one-time contour.
I recently got the Canon Pixma Pro 100 and am press from Mac OSX Mavericks and Lightroom v, letting Lightroom manage color. I just started using Permajet Porfolio 200 art newspaper (which is a matte, cotton fiber rag paper) and am using their downloadable profile for that paper and my printer. Soft proofing, with my calibrated monitor and with newspaper and ink simulation on, most prints are coming out exactly every bit on screen (or at least within a whisper). I'g press quality and media/custom at slowest setting. I'm printing from the rear feeder (past which i mean the front end feeder non the manual feeder).
But I'thou confounded by the setting in the print driver dialogue. If I use the fine printing on plain paper 1 preset (my merely preset options are a fine printing on plain paper, fine printing on patently paper 1, last settings or default) and select photo paper and Pro Platinum 100 (though with the correct paper contour selected in Lightroom), plus printing perceptual, the prints are admittedly gorgeous, rich color and sharpness, detail, shadow gradation etc. But...information technology'due south technically the wrong paper setting in the drivers. If I select fine art paper 1, which I think is probably the "correct" setting, the slider in quality and media/custom volition only become two thirds of the way across towards finest/slowest. I don't want to print faster as i want the best possible quality.
The prints are stunning using the combination I've fix upward, but am I straining the print heads or anything else by using this combination? And why won't the driver allow me to print finest/slowest on matte fine art paper.
If anyone can advise, I'd be grateful.
RGBCMYK • Senior Fellow member • Posts: 2,429
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My gauge is the paper won't benefit from the highest setting because of the media dot gain and ink limitations and then the printer is really scaling back the amount of ink usage and considering the paper is resolution limited keeping y'all from using that setting. I know with older matt paper printing with a setting of 720dpi maxed out the papers and setting college just wasted ink and time.
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Hugowolf • Forum Pro • Posts: 12,676
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You are non straining anything with your settings, only accept you lot tried doing side-by-side comparisons at different settings. Lower dpi tin often consequence in higher quality.
Here is an older document (the Portfolio 200 has been replaced by a 220 g/m² version), but information technology does have both sleeky and matt settings for many 'fine art' papers, but seemingly, never at the printers' highest dpi.
https://world wide web.permajet.com/downloads/printer_driver_settings.pdf
Brian A
jtoolman • Veteran Member • Posts: 6,815
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RGBCMYK wrote:
My guess is the paper won't do good from the highest setting considering of the media dot proceeds and ink limitations and so the printer is actually scaling back the corporeality of ink usage and because the paper is resolution limited keeping yous from using that setting. I know with older matt paper press with a setting of 720dpi maxed out the papers and setting higher just wasted ink and time.
That's exactly the reason!
FlickM • New Member • Posts: 2
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Cheers for the explanations, it all makes sense. This is the first printer I've had for some time and just assumed slower was better. I do accept ii prints to compare because one i did today had reverted to college speed. They look very similar, though i convinced myself the slower one was ameliorate. Ive too learned that matte fine fine art paper seems to want a wider margin: i got ink marking at the acme edges of the page press nearer to the edge.
I too got a magenta dot on a light coloured print today. Would that be connected to printing at the wrong speed?
I actually ordered Portfolio 220 from Wex Photographic, just they sent me 200. And so am I right in thinking the setting for that in the printer driver should exist fine art 1? I deceit wait at the chart at the mo as we accept a ability cut hither and my ageing eyes aren't up to reading it on my phone.
OP Flick • Veteran Fellow member • Posts: 5,818
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Pitiful, logged in with the wrong persona- that final reply was from me.
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Hugowolf • Forum Pro • Posts: 12,676
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Nosotros are talking about two dissimilar things here: speed and resolution. Slower can be better, allowing more fourth dimension for the droplets to dry before the adjacent head pass. I don't remember slower can ever be worse, merely it tin can sometimes be no better than faster.
Higher output resolution, college dpi, can be worse on many papers. It dpends on the dot gain (the percentage bespeak increase in the ink dot diameter), and the minimum droplet size the printer tin produce.
Aye, ridiculously tiny font.
Brian A
OP Flick • Veteran Member • Posts: five,818
Re: Canon Pixma Pro 100 fine art paper conundrum
Hugowolf wrote:
Nosotros are talking well-nigh two different things hither: speed and resolution. Slower tin can be better, allowing more than time for the droplets to dry before the adjacent head pass. I don't think slower tin always be worse, only it can sometimes be no better than faster.
College output resolution, higher dpi, tin exist worse on many papers. It dpends on the dot gain (the percent indicate increment in the ink dot diameter), and the minimum droplet size the printer can produce.
Aye, ridiculously tiny font.
Brian A
Brian, yep i realised speed and resolution are not the same. But thanks for clarifying farther ive not chosen a resolution simply have left information technology upwards to Lightroom to calculate. I accept to say that despite whatever erroneous settings on my part, the prints are spectacular from this printer. I'one thousand press to exhibit and couldnt be more pleased.
Hugowolf • Forum Pro • Posts: 12,676
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Flick wrote:
Hugowolf wrote:
Nosotros are talking about two dissimilar things here: speed and resolution. Slower can be ameliorate, allowing more time for the droplets to dry out before the adjacent head pass. I don't think slower can e'er exist worse, but it tin sometimes be no better than faster.
Higher output resolution, college dpi, tin can be worse on many papers. Information technology dpends on the dot gain (the percent betoken increase in the ink dot bore), and the minimum droplet size the printer can produce.
Yep, ridiculously tiny font.
Brian A
Brian, aye i realised speed and resolution are not the same. But thanks for clarifying farther ive non called a resolution simply take left it up to Lightroom to calculate. I accept to say that despite any erroneous settings on my function, the prints are spectacular from this printer. I'm printing to exhibit and couldnt be more pleased.
That is a third and separate matter.
As far every bit the printer is concerned, that is input resolution, ppi (pixels per inch) non printer output resolution in dpi (dots per inch). If you don't set it in Lr, then Lr does goose egg, it doesn't calculate anything, information technology will simply be sent to the printer at any resolution the image is.
Generally for Canon and HP printers, you would want to set the Lr resolution to 300 ppi, if the image resolution is less than or equal to 300 ppi, and to 600 ppi, if the image resolution is over 300 ppi.
No, what I am talking about is output resolution. Somewhere in the driver you tin can set up the output to 4800 10 2400 dpi, or 2400 x whatsoever dpi, etc.
Brian A
Gesture • Veteran Member • Posts: 9,634
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Yet like what the glossy papers produce, but I only started doing some dye ink prints on matte paper with the Pixma Pro-100 and the results accept been fantabulous as your experience. Had some old Epson Enhanced Matte around and quite pleased. Canon also has a branded cotton paper (Fine Fine art Vivid White/Fine Art Natural) that is skilful. Wonder how many actual suppliers for all these Natural White/Enhanced White; 220/310; doubled-sided branded cotton papers offered. Freestyle likewise has one.
OP Motion-picture show • Veteran Fellow member • Posts: 5,818
Re: Catechism Pixma Pro 100 fine art paper conundrum
Will come back to yhis later or tomorrow guys. Power still out hither so no wifi, only 3g and am losing the volition to live using my phone. Thanks for all the input.
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OP Flick • Veteran Member • Posts: 5,818
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That is a third and separate thing.
Every bit far equally the printer is concerned, that is input resolution, ppi (pixels per inch) not printer output resolution in dpi (dots per inch). If you lot don't set it in Lr, then Lr does cypher, it doesn't calculate annihilation, it will just exist sent to the printer at whatsoever resolution the image is.
More often than not for Canon and HP printers, yous would want to set up the Lr resolution to 300 ppi, if the epitome resolution is less than or equal to 300 ppi, and to 600 ppi, if the paradigm resolution is over 300 ppi.
No, what I am talking about is output resolution. Somewhere in the driver you lot tin gear up the output to 4800 x 2400 dpi, or 2400 x any dpi, etc.
Brian A
Brian, I'chiliad really confused by this. Firstly, being new to Lightroom (I'd done all my processing in Photoshop before that), i watched the whole set of videos by Julieanne Kost, on the Adobe site. She said that if you didn't tick the resolution box in Lightroom, Lightroom would calculate the paper, ink etc and decide on the output (to print) resolution. The oter thing is that nowhere in the drivers tin I notice the output resolution as in 4800x2400 or any. I think there are fewer options on the Mac, but even so i have combed the printer options and can't find that one - anywhere...
OP Flick • Veteran Member • Posts: 5,818
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Gesture wrote:
Still like what the glossy papers produce, but I just started doing some dye ink prints on matte paper with the Pixma Pro-100 and the results have been excellent as your experience. Had some old Epson Enhanced Matte around and quite pleased. Canon besides has a branded cotton paper (Fine Art Bright White/Fine art Natural) that is skillful. Wonder how many actual suppliers for all these Natural White/Enhanced White; 220/310; doubled-sided branded cotton papers offered. Freestyle also has i.
I will cheque the new Catechism newspaper yous mention. is this smooth or textured, matte ot pearl or what? I very much like the matte paper. I have a box of Pro Platinum simply it seems and so advised in comparison that i wish i hadn't bought information technology, though the particular and colour are staggering. When i did darkroom stuff, i quickly abandoned resin coated papers and used fibre paper, and this feels like. In fact i need to explore fibre inkjet papers. It's all then expensive though...
Gesture • Veteran Member • Posts: ix,634
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Catechism's Fine Art papers are matte with a slight texture. I bought from Information technology Supplies. Expert luck.
OP Flick • Veteran Fellow member • Posts: 5,818
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Gesture wrote:
Canon's Fine Fine art papers are matte with a slight texture. I bought from IT Supplies. Adept luck.
Thanks. I'm in the Great britain so will have to check out where I can get information technology.
Hugowolf • Forum Pro • Posts: 12,676
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Flick wrote:
That is a tertiary and separate thing.
As far as the printer is concerned, that is input resolution, ppi (pixels per inch) not printer output resolution in dpi (dots per inch). If you don't ready it in Lr, and then Lr does nothing, it doesn't calculate anything, information technology volition simply be sent to the printer at whatever resolution the image is.
Generally for Canon and HP printers, you would desire to set the Lr resolution to 300 ppi, if the image resolution is less than or equal to 300 ppi, and to 600 ppi, if the paradigm resolution is over 300 ppi.
No, what I am talking almost is output resolution. Somewhere in the driver you can gear up the output to 4800 ten 2400 dpi, or 2400 x whatever dpi, etc.
Brian A
Brian, I'yard really dislocated by this. Firstly, being new to Lightroom (I'd done all my processing in Photoshop earlier that), i watched the whole set of videos by Julieanne Kost, on the Adobe site. She said that if you lot didn't tick the resolution box in Lightroom, Lightroom would calculate the newspaper, ink etc and decide on the output (to print) resolution.
You could be misreading it, but it own't true.
If you don't set the input resolution in Lightroom, the prototype will go to the printer at whatsoever pixel dimensions it is. If your paradigm was 2000 x 3000 pixels, and you lot set Lightroom to impress an 8 ten 12, and so it will get to the printer at 250 ppi. If you send the same epitome for a 4 x 6 inch print, then it will go to the printer at 500 ppi.
The media/newspaper setting in the printer driver'south dialog sets the ink loading. And the profile determines color mapping.
The deviation between this and Photoshop was/is press at 100%. In Photoshop, if you wanted to print 300 ppi at 100%, then you had to manually up-rez or down-rez to 300 ppi. There is no 100% in Lightroom. There is no manual scaling in Lightroom.
The way printing is fix in Photoshop has always led to a lot of misunderstanding of resolution.
The oter thing is that nowhere in the drivers can I find the output resolution as in 4800x2400 or whatever. I think at that place are fewer options on the Mac, just all the same i have combed the printer options and tin't discover that one - anywhere...
At that place must exist somewhere where you can set the out resolution (perhaps non). It could be in words instead of numbers, as in ultra fine quality, super duper fine quality, draft quality?
Brian A
OP Flick • Veteran Fellow member • Posts: 5,818
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You could be misreading it, but it ain't true.
If you don't set the input resolution in Lightroom, the image will go to the printer at whatsoever pixel dimensions it is. If your image was 2000 x 3000 pixels, and you ready Lightroom to print an 8 ten 12, then it volition go to the printer at 250 ppi. If y'all transport the aforementioned image for a 4 10 6 inch impress, and so it will go to the printer at 500 ppi.
The media/newspaper setting in the printer driver's dialog sets the ink loading. And the profile determines color mapping.
The difference between this and Photoshop was/is printing at 100%. In Photoshop, if yous wanted to print 300 ppi at 100%, then y'all had to manually up-rez or down-rez to 300 ppi. There is no 100% in Lightroom. In that location is no manual scaling in Lightroom.
The way printing is set up in Photoshop has always led to a lot of misunderstanding of resolution.
There must be somewhere where you can set up the out resolution (perhaps non). It could be in words instead of numbers, as in ultra fine quality, super duper fine quality, draft quality?
Brian A
Thanks again Brian
Re the output resolution, but loftier or standard for photo printing. i haven't looked at messages, envelopes or any, and then those settings may be different - i accept a little mono laser printer for that. This is a very exciting learning bend. Volition try some prints using high/other fine art paper 1 tomorrow. i'm almost tempted to say if it aint bankrupt don't fix it, s the results I've been getting with the settings I was using are staggeringly good.
OP Flick • Veteran Member • Posts: v,818
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Brian, I'thousand actually confused past this. Firstly, existence new to Lightroom (I'd done all my processing in Photoshop before that), i watched the whole set of videos by Julieanne Kost, on the Adobe site. She said that if yous didn't tick the resolution box in Lightroom, Lightroom would calculate the paper, ink etc and decide on the output (to print) resolution.
You could be misreading it, but it ain't true.
If you don't set the input resolution in Lightroom, the epitome will go to the printer at whatever pixel dimensions it is. If your prototype was 2000 ten 3000 pixels, and you set Lightroom to print an 8 ten 12, and so it will get to the printer at 250 ppi. If you send the aforementioned epitome for a four x half dozen inch print, then it will become to the printer at 500 ppi.
The media/paper setting in the printer commuter'south dialog sets the ink loading. And the profile determines color mapping.
The deviation between this and Photoshop was/is press at 100%. In Photoshop, if you wanted to print 300 ppi at 100%, then you lot had to manually up-rez or down-rez to 300 ppi. There is no 100% in Lightroom. There is no manual scaling in Lightroom.
I provide the post-obit two links, which say what i said almost not checking the print resolution in the print module in Lightroom 5:
http://telly.adobe.com/watch/adobe-evangelists-julieanne-kost/lightroom-v-print-the-perfect-image/
http://books.google.co.united kingdom of great britain and northern ireland/books?id=xvQyt1nluHsC&pg=PT903&lpg=PT903&dq=lightroom+5+print+resolution+options&source=bl&ots=YOBSfu6hRz&sig=Oiaq4FNeL4yW2thi7PY5odJDwYc&hl=en&sa=10&ei=XKSEUvnoPMm4hAfjpIHgAg&ved=0CE0Q6AEwAzgU#v=onepage&q=lightroom%205%20print%20resolution%20options&f=false
With the outset link, the chip where she talks about leaving print reolution unchecked and letting Lightroom figure out the resolution for this ink, paper, image combination is most 6min thirty secs in. Brian, i would be interested in your input on this. These sources seem to be contradicting you, but i may, as you say, have misunderstood. I really desire to get this correct and I bow to your feel - I'm an experienced darkroom printer only haven't printed with inkjet very much (non since college anyway and that was some time ago).
Jim Hess • Veteran Member • Posts: v,438
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Brian,
I'thou not sure your caption of resolution setting in Lightroom is correct. I accept watched the video that someone else mentioned that Julianne produced. And she states specifically that leaving the printer resolution (yes, there is a setting for that in Lightroom) unchecked allows Lightroom to choose the appropriate resolution for the size of impress being printed. The other person didn't misread or misunderstand this. That is the way Lightroom is designed to work. At to the lowest degree according to Julianne. And, based on her level of education and expertise, I take no reason to question her.
Hugowolf • Forum Pro • Posts: 12,676
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Jim Hess wrote:
Brian,
I'k not certain your explanation of resolution setting in Lightroom is right. I have watched the video that someone else mentioned that Julianne produced. And she states specifically that leaving the printer resolution (yes, there is a setting for that in Lightroom) unchecked allows Lightroom to choose the appropriate resolution for the size of print being printed. The other person didn't misread or misunderstand this. That is the way Lightroom is designed to work. At least according to Julianne. And, based on her level of instruction and expertise, I have no reason to question her.
I volition get dorsum to you on this, but not tonight, it is Friday, and I have a life beyond this forum. I accept 800 images to process by Tuesday.
What I think y'all are misunderstanding is 'printer resolution'.
Brian A
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